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Community and the End of Going Alone — Carl Smith

Carl Smith is a community builder and philosophical futurist focused on helping agency leaders connect, grow, and thrive. As the leader of The Bureau, he has hosted and attended over 500 workshops, talks, and masterminds, gaining a front-row view of how agency leadership is evolving. His upcoming book, Built to Change: Designing The Agency of Tomorrow, explores AI, shifting client dynamics, and the reinvention of knowledge work. Based in Florida, Carl runs long miles, studies the future of work, and writes about leadership and second chances.

In today’s episode of Smashing the Plateau, you will learn how to build community, embrace the future of knowledge work, and thrive as an independent entrepreneur in a rapidly changing landscape.

Carl and I discuss:

  • Carl’s career journey and how he stumbled into community building [02:17]
  • How Carl found his passion for The Bureau [04:41]
  • What kinds of businesses qualify as agencies [07:32]
  • The loneliness of leadership and how community solves it [11:45]
  • The future of knowledge work and AI’s impact [13:23]
  • Why domain expertise is your greatest competitive edge [17:00]
  • What true community really means [21:16]
  • One piece of advice for entrepreneurs in career transition [22:15]

Learn more about Carl at https://thebureau.community/.

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About Smashing the Plateau

Smashing the Plateau is a podcast for experienced independent leaders who have left corporate roles to build sustainable, expertise-based businesses.

Each episode features a thoughtful, experience-driven conversation about what changes when you no longer have the infrastructure of an organization behind you.

We explore judgment, decision-making under uncertainty, growth plateaus, identity shifts, and the role of trusted thinking partners in sustaining long-term success.

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About the author, David Shriner-Cahn

David is the podcast host and community builder behind Smashing the Plateau, an online platform offering resources, accountability, and camaraderie to high-performing professionals who are making the leap from the corporate career track to entrepreneurial business ownership.

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