STP004: Two Kinds of Influence with Bill Bryan

Bill Bryan has had a whirlwind career in which he has been a psychologist, soldier, entrepreneur, consultant, and advocate for quality education. The one constant that has tied his many diverse ventures today has been the study of leadership. In this interview, Bill discusses the concept of leadership from a very different perspective.

Topics include…

  • Why not all kinds of influence are the same
  • How managing energy is different from managing resources
  • Why the best leaders see themselves as destabilizers
  • How to harness people’s desire for meaning to make things happen
  • What changing your “lenses” can do for your career and life
  • The power of resistance

Bill Bryan is the Vice President of Leadership and Organization Development with the Center for Secondary School Redesign, Inc. Bill began his career in the Army and has a PhD in clinical psychology from George Washington University. As a consultant, he worked with some of the world’s largest corporations, including AT&T, Hewlett-Packard, Johnson & Johnson, Anheuser-Busch, and Major League Baseball.

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About the author, David

Host of Smashing the Plateau and the Co-Founder of the BestNetwork, which guides expertise-driven solopreneur business owners to build stable and consistent recurring revenue.


  1. Rochelle on 08/21/2014 at 8:28 PM

    Your Comments*I simply LOVED this conversation! It was very thought provoking. I now can look at specific traits to measure effective leadership as well as management. He draws a clear distinction between the two.

    I also felt relieved at the mention that there is so much emphasis on what to do in a business but not as much on HOW to do it. It’s as if there is an underlying belief and expectation that change is simple. We know how resistance can challenges the best idea and bottle neck implementation..

    I am going to listen to this again to take in even more golden nuggets of insights. Thanks for this podcast…..a great 30 minutes of fabulous information.

  2. David Shriner-Cahn on 08/22/2014 at 8:59 AM

    Thanks, Rochelle. I couldn’t agree more. It is easy to get stuck focusing on WHAT to do and never getting to HOW to do it — which means not starting and not changing. We all know that standing still is not an option. Stay tuned for our upcoming podcast with Joanne Rogovin, who is an expert on the emotional aspects of change.

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